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Please take the time to read this page! It's Very Important! Especially, if you SHIP drums, or anything, vintage/collectible!
I used Fed Ex exclussively to ship in the U.S., always thinking I was safe using their insurance(That I was paying extra for!). THINK AGAIN! Fed Ex, as well as others, will only pay $100.00(Ground Service) or $500.00(Express service) on "Items of Extraordinary Value"(their term). I found this out, when I received my own Ddrum3 brain, back from my parents, shipped Fed Ex ground, fully insured, and after the clerk opened it, to inspect that it was packed correctly. When I got it, the box was punctured & the display was damaged, rendering it almost useless. Part of my problem was, I wasn't able to provide a receipt for it, since I bought it many years ago, second hand. Although, I did have a full retail, factory price sheet, showing the actual retail cost, to buy 1 new, in 1997.
This led me to ask the question. "What would happen, if an item was purchased, sent to a buyer, with proof of payment (ie: personal check, cashier check, money order, etc.)." The answer I got left me breathless! It affected how I, and I'm sure, a lot of people will do business in the future.
They would only honor $100.00 for Ground, or $500.00 for Express. Even, with proof that someone paid me $XXXX.XX for it. I was told by the claims adjuster, that "Even a Van Gogh painting, sold & documented, at auction, and then shipped, without some kind of 3rd party insurance, would only be ellidgable for the $100.00 or $500.00, depending on how it was sent.". So, that leaves me to either, A) Reimburse the buyer the difference, out of my pocket, for something I had absolutely no control over. Or, B) Tell them they were on their own. Of course, either is a horrible predicamnet to be in. I take all the necessary precations, to make sure my items are safe, as possible, in transit. It's very important to me, on a personal level, that my things make it, in 1 piece, but accidents on the part of shippers do happen, every now and then. I, and I'm sure, most sellers, can't afford to take such risks.
I now, have no choice, but to make the buyer responsible in case of damage. After all, they're the 1 who wants the item shipped. I'll continue to ship, and pack items, to the absolute best of my ability. However, I can't afford to be responssible, if the shipper damages or looses, a package, that was fine, when it left my hands. I'm sure if you are reading this, and sell second hand items, of any kind, you are, A) Very greatful for all your packages that made it to their destination in 1 piece. & B) Rethinking how you're going to go about your business in the future.
Of course, I don't like the situation I, WE, are in. I'll be looking for alternatives, where the items are insured for their value. The value determined, by what someone is willing to pay for an item. Think about it... Value is indeed, a very vague term. Even in the case of a new item, which they would fully cover with a retail store receipt. Value is only determined by what people are willing to pay for something. ie: Apple makes great computers. They cost upwards of $4000.00. People are willing to pay that much for them. They didn't cost $4000.00 to make. If people stopped buying them, the price would go down, at least, more compareable, to other "high end" computers. People buy them, because they're good & they're willing to pay the $4000.00, for them, because of it. Value determined! Otherwise, it's just a hunk of metal & plastic, that probably cost, more like, a couple hundred dollars, to build... Get it? Value is determined, by what someone is willing pay, for an item. Not everyone, will see that valueable, or feel they have to have 1, but enough people do, which sets it's, so called, "value". This applies, across the board, to new & used items, alike.
Unfortunately, the shippers don't see it this way. Even with proof of payment... That'll be the downfall, of all they have built, through the boom of internet sales. And yes, this means, even if you own a brick & mortar store front, selling second hand merchandise, of any kind, sell & ship an item, it gets damaged in shipping, it would only qualify, for the aformentioned $100.00 or $500.00. No matter what the actual retail price, you and a buyer, agreed upon. Please be careful. Also, let me know if there's a better option I should explore.
WARNING: If you like buying dirty, beat up, unoriginal drums, with lots of "character", this is not the place!
My misson statement... A promise, of things, I have never, and will never, do:
I will NEVER break up a "real" set of drums! I don't care if I can easily sell the mega rare snare drum, out of a 3 piece polka set, quickly and easily. If it came together, and the set is all in good, original, condition... IT STAYS TOGETHER!
I will NEVER peel an original wrap off a an original, "no extra holes", shell! NEVER!!! I really don't even like to deal with rewrapped anything, anyway...
I will NEVER disassemble an original drum, to try to get more money out of it! If you want it, you'll pay what it's worth, in 1 piece.
Generally speaking, I do no harm, and respect history... I hope you can appreciate that, as well...
All items have been professionally, inspected, disassembled, cleaned(in & out), by hand, and cared for, by me. My cleaning process is extremely rigorous and time consuming. I do all the work, so you don't have to. Better to leave it to me! It saves you time and you know it was done "RIGHT"! Nobody does it better than me, if they do it at all! One might say, my drums have been, "professionally historically preserved"! Take a rare look inside 1 of my drums, to see what I mean, when I say clean in and out! I'm very picky, and extremely knowledgeable, which helps you! In fact, it's part of what you pay for. Even if you don't know what's original, I do. Down to every last washer, for every last era, of just about, every brand! I make sure, you know, what you're buying. Not like a lot of the drum butchering, no clue having, "dealers", out there. Some things you really need to know what to look for. You have no idea how much knowledge goes into that. Don't feel bad though, it's not your job to... It's mine. Besides, MOST dealers, don't either. Just because they own a shop, wrote a book, or own a lot of drums, doesn't mean they know these things. I've dealt with many of the, so called, "authorities", and have often been disappointed. Honestly, some of the most notable, have been among the worst. I generally don't like to buy drums that have been touched by "the business", though. I just don't trust these people enough, to know what they are really selling. You'd be surprised at the subtlties of certain things. If your drums aren't EXACTLY as they should be, they aren't worth as much! PERIOD! If you are, at all, interested in investment potential, etc., authenticity & condition ARE KING! Also, because I take the drums apart, I've seen to it, that every part is original, or not. In most cases, everything I have is original. If not, I will be sure to inform you before the sale. Fortunately, for you, I'm an over observant, anal retentive, freak, that gets off on noticing slight nuances in manufacturing, parts, etc.! I've handled tons of drums, since I started buying and selling at age 15, since @ 1985, noticing and learning many little things, over the many years. Things you really have to be looking for, and have many other drums on hand, to compare to! It's been rather fun actually! For me anyway... I was also brought up by parents who are antique dealers, so I grew up being dragged to every auction, antique show, and flea market, you could imagine, from a very young age... It wasn't always fun, but it taught me A LOT, and set me on a course for what I do. It also gave me a lot of insight into all things vintage or antique, that I just don't think most dealers have. Lets face it, most of us, just "like old drums". Me included, but my background, does set me apart.
Back to my drums! If I like it, I'm pretty sure you will too. I can't think of any of them, that I wouldn't love to keep, if it was only possible. I often regret selling them... However, space doesn't permit keeping everything I take in. Even still, I treat all of them like my own. After all, technically, for now, they are...
All items are in the best possible condition & closest to new, as can be. Ready to take on the next gig, right out of the box(Unless otherwise stated.)! I have yet to find anyone else offering, truly 100% restored, vintage drums. They usually can't afford to put the time in, so you get them, the way they got them. Dirty, and often, chock full, of incorrect parts. Trust me, I know, I've bought from them all! Sorry, I won't name names, but they know who they are. I can honestly say, I've yet to receive a drum, I didn't end up making better, through, at least, some degree of detailing work, and setup overhaul. Most need way more than that, but I do whatever it takes to get them back up to their former glory! It can be very tedious, time consuming, work, but in the end, it's always worth it! It's an honor, to be custodian, to these beautiful treasures(both visually & sonically)!
All items are graded from: Fair, Good, Very Good, Excellent, Mint. Although, you won't find many items here, in less than excellent condition! Also, items may receive a + or a -, to show that it leans more toward one side of that rating. Ratings are based on what I find to be "typical" to any given item. I see many, of most, of the items I carry, so I know what to expect, as far as wear or aging to any given piece/brand.
All items described as 100% original, are, 100% original, including heads, snares, etc. As you will see, most of my drums are completely original(other than the heads & or snares), but in some cases, to make a drum playable again, "repro" or "aftermarket" parts are used. If an item is listed as having repro parts, it means they are very close, in appearance, to factory original. Aftermarket, means functional, but not necessarily similar looking, to the original part.
Drum heads & snare wires, are only mentioned, if they are original. Otherwise, they are in "as found" condition. Usually, good usable condition. I've found, most people like to change the heads, due to personal preference, anyway. I try to match heads on sets, so they're playable, if possible. Single drums tend to get the "throw away" heads. Most people are buying singles, to add to an existing set, and will likely, want to change them, to match their setup.
I try to list all the pertinent, "general informationon", for each piece, but if you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask. I'll be happy to go into great detail about the condition, or attributes, of any of my items.
Items listed as "pic coming soon" are on route or being worked on. If there is something you want to see that says this, let me know. I may be able to speed things up. Sometimes I get sidetracked...
This site has been up for 20 years now... It was made using 4(and counting...) different cameras. You'll probably notice, some pics are much nicer than others. If you see something you like, but would like an updated pic, please let me know. I'll be happy to retake it, if it is "lesser" quality, than what I'm now capable of, or if you just want more views, closeups, bigger files, etc. Also, let me know if any of the pics aren't coming up.
If you're looking for a certain item that I don't currently have, email me. I'll be happy to keep an eye out for you. Please fill in the subject line with the item you want(ie: 60's Ludwig, mod orange, 14" floor tom) for easy filing. It makes a big difference whether I'll be able to find you, when I find the item you're looking for. It also helps when you are inquiring on an item I have. My inbox can get pretty crazy looking!
Prices are subject to change, without notice, and do not include shipping. I will ship anything, anywhere, on the planet Earth! Email me for a shipping quote if you'd like. Include your zip code or country.
Satisfaction guaranteed! If you don't feel my items are worth every penny, email me right away(Must be within 24 hours of delivery time.), send it back in the condition it was received(I will know, so no funny business, or no refund!), and I'll give you a refund, minus the shipping charges!
If you're interested in something, but need time to get up the $$$, let me know. I'm very easy to work with, and do offer Layaway!
I also offer a quick & inexpensive appraisal service! Items are appraised at full retail value. Please email me for details, if you're interested in this service.
If you've got something to sell, always check with me first! While there are items I already have, or come across easily, that I may not be willing to shell out big $$$ for... When it comes to something I really have to have, I promise, there's nobody paying more. I have, in the past, and can, afford to buy from dealers at their "retail" prices. Think about it, and don't be fooled. If I pay their prices, what are they willing to give you? Figure a 1/4 of what they sell for. If you're very lucky, and found a reasonable dealer! That's basically rule of thumb for second hand collectibles. They often aren't "retailing" at top dollar, so that means you don't get the "wholesale" top dollar price. I pay the most, PERIOD! You'd have to be pretty well connected to do better. It would have to be a private sale, to a true collector, to get more, and that's provided he's honest with you...
Item rentals for recording, video/photo shoots, movies, etc., will be considered on a case by case basis. Please feel free to email me, to discuss your needs.
Please bookmark the site, and visit often. I'm always looking to buy, and receive new merchandise all the time! Best to go to "add to favorites" on top tool bar of your browser, since there are actually 3 separate frames running. If you're having trouble viewing all the links on the home page, try setting your monitor resolution higher. That'll usually fix it.
I ask, that you not use my pics on other sites or auctions(I will see it!). I take great offense to this, as people may think it's me, selling some of the drums from my site. That IS NOT cool! I very rarely sell drums, or parts, anywhere but here. If I do see my pics used somewhere, other than www.VintageDrums.com, I'll be sure to let everyone know what they're looking at. If you insist on using them, do the right thing. Tell people where you borrowed it from, and that it's my item they're looking at!
Check out the many reasons, not to use www.Paypal.com at www.PaypalSucks.com & www.ConsumerAffairs.com! This "business", owes me $270.00, I'll probably never see again! I was amazed to see, how many stories like mine, there were! Sorry, it's lengthy, so I won't go into it here. Also, www.EbaySucks.com. I do use www.Ebay.com, but, I assume a lot of risk, in doing so. I've had countless problems, with them, the nopay bidders, and the "sellers", as well. To quote 1 of my favorite movies(Star Wars), "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainry."(Ebay). Let's just say, in most cases, you really do, get what you pay for... These sites, are in no way, related to me, but I thought I'd pass the info on to you. A smart consumer, is a safe consumer. You can thank me later...
Just so you know, I'm a semi professional drummer. I've been in many bands, played many gigs, opening, headlining, all nighters, and opened shows for many "major recording artists"... Not some wanna-be-player, or guitar dealer, in it for the $$$! This is all I do for a living... I truly love, bringing great drums, back to top condition, and playing them. As well as, getting them to the people who'll continue to love, play, and respect them, as I do! Lastly, I treat all my customers the same! If you enjoy playing the drums, or are enjoying learning to play the drums, be you, young or old, you ARE a rockstar, to me...
And I'm here, to make your drum dreams, come true!
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